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 densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Philippe Cas 
Date:   01-11-2007 13:12

Bonjour,

Je cherche à avoir des infos sur le moyen de racorder mon vénérable densito Xrite TR 1224 à mon ordinateur.

Déja il me faut un cable. D'aprés la doc coté densito c'est du RJ11 (téléphone) de l'autre coté (ordi ou imprimante) c'est du d-sub25 (port parallèle).

Ensuite il me faut un soft pour récupérer et exploiter les données.
Xrite ne supporte plus ce densito, ils n'ont plus de cable, ni de soft (apparament il y a un lien avec hyperterminal de microsoft...).

Quelqu'un a t il des infos... (quel soft sur quel système, adaptateur possible etc...) ?

Cordialement
Philippe Cas

philippe(at)usine-a-photo.com


 
 Re: densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Henri Gaud 
Date:   01-11-2007 14:24

A Vaugirard ils ont ce densito connecté,
Mais je n'en sais pas plus.

On parle bien du Macbeth TR 1224 ?

Je n'ai jamais essayé de connecter le mien.

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 Re: densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Roman 
Date:   01-11-2007 14:40

Si je me souviens bien Kodak a développé son logiciel de contrôle Q-Lab sur plusieurs densitos, dont celui-ci, peut-être pouvez-vous vous renseigner chez eux. Par contre, je pense que les machines et les logiciels requis ne ressemblent à rien du genre des PC d'aujourd'hui, ça serait plutôt du Windows 95 maxi avec une carte interface spéciale?


 
 Re: densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Philippe Cas 
Date:   01-11-2007 14:58

Bonjour,

J'ai effectivement un Qlab sur disquette qui tourne sous NT4 (d'ailleur si ça interesse quelqu'un...). C'est tout à fait instalable sur un pc actuel.

Pour la connectique il faut un port // (d'aprés les maiges infos que j'ai) ce qui se trouve encore grace à une carte pci ou un adaptateur (mais je ne sais pas si ça marche...)

Cordialement
Philippe Cas

philippe(at)usine-a-photo.com


 
 Re: densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Photo-collector 
Date:   01-11-2007 16:41

IBM PC - Typical RS232-C Chassis Configurations
Since the AT, most IBM PC's and their clones have offered RS232-C communications ports as standard items. Two different port
configurations are commonly seen in the field. Below are the pinouts generally encountered. Not all pins are listed as some are unused in
typical interfaces. Note also that IBM's are Data Communications Devices (DTE). So too are all X-Rite instruments. When two DTE devices
are connected a NULL-MODEM cable is required. In this cable several pairs of wires are crossed so as to connect the appropriate signal
and handshake lines.
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IBM DB9p (9-pin Male) IBM DB25p (25-pin Male)
Pin # Function Pin # Function
2 Receive 2 Transmit
3 Transmit 3 Receive
5 Ground 4 Ready to Send
6 Data Set Ready 5 Clear to Send
7 Ready to Send 6 Data Set Ready
7 Ground
20 Data Terminal Ready



Using HyperTerminal to Test an Interface
HyperTerminal has shipped with Microsoft Windows almost since its introduction. The screen grabs and commentary that follow describe
how to configure this utility program for use as a quick test to ascertain the correct functioning of an X-Rite instrument's RS-232 interface.
Assumptions:
1. That test computer is equipped with a version of Microsoft Windows (Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows 2000).
2. That computer has available "COMM" port to use for interface testing purposes.
3. That an appropriate X-Rite communications cable is attached to the port.
Note that Palm Pilots, internal modems, and other RS-232 devices may interfere with a computer's ability to operate with X-Rite
instruments. HyperTerminal will generate an error if it is directed to use a port that is already being controlled by other software. It is the
user's responsibility to understand this and to select a port that is free for these testing purposes.
1. Close all programs except Windows itself.
2. Left-click on the "Start" button and then on "Run..." as illustrated. Type in the word "hypertrm"
3. When the application launches, enter a 'name' for the connection - - any text is acceptable as shown.
4. Next select the DIRECT connection where the X-Rite instrument has been attached - generally "COM1" or "COM2".
5. Continue by setting appropriate communications parameters. Illustrated are the settings required for X-Rite instruments that
default to 9,600 baud. This is the most common speed though a few units will default to 1,200 after a factory reset. Note as
shown below, ALL X-Rite instruments require 8 data bits, No parity, 1 stop bit, and No flow control. Only baud may vary according
to model and type!
6. Once configured, HyperTerminal will present the user with a blank white screen. At this point data, entered through the computer's
keyboard, is directly transmitted to the instrument! It will NOT be displayed on the computer's screen! Instead, the screen will
display any and all data that is generated by the instrument.
7. To verify the proper operation of the instrument's RS-232 interface simply type the appropriate 'version' command. For example,
if testing a 500 series instrument, type the following letters and then press the "Enter" key. Type "SV" then "Enter". As shown
below [a] typed characters are NOT displayed and the instrument's response to the command IS displayed.
Done. The above test completely proves the ability of the instrument to both send and receive data. "SV" or "Software Version", followed
by the "Enter" key commands the instrument to identify itself. The attached 500 series instrument responds by sending "X-Rite
530 ,vC625" and then "<00>". The returned information identifies the instrument as an X-Rite model 530 of firmware build vC625. The
second line ( <00>) is the instrument's way of saying that no errors were detected. Should any number other than "00" be returned, refer to
the interface manual to decode the meaning of the error code.
Table that follows details settings required by each instrument model or family. Be aware that firmware in many instruments requires a
"GO" command. This command releases the unit to normal operation after it identifies itself (or after any other remote control instruction).
If this command is not required, the "GO" column is left blank. Finally, all commands are CaSe Sensitive. Be sure to enter the
commands exactly as shown in the table!
Test Unit Baud Handshake Identify Command Go Command
380..391 9,600 Off "SV" + "Enter" "GO" + "Enter"
400..428 1,200 Off "v" + "Enter" "g" + "Enter"
500..530 9,600 Off "SV" + "Enter"
810, 811 1,200 Off "V" + "Enter" "G" + "Enter"
880..892 1,200 Off "SV" + "Enter" "GO" + "Enter"

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938..978 1,200 Off "v" + "Enter" "g" + "Enter"
939 9,600 Off "SV" + "Enter"
CF57 9,600 Off "V" + "Enter" "G" + "Enter"
DTP12 9,600 Off "SV" + "Enter"
DTP22 9,600 Off "V" + "Enter"
DTP32, 36 9,600 Off "SV" + "Enter"
DTP41 9,600 Off "SV" + "Enter"
DTP51 9,600 Off "SV" + "Enter"
MA58..68II 9,600 Off "v" + "Enter"
SP60..64 9,600 Off "SV" + "Enter"
SP68..98 9,600 Off "v" + "Enter"


 
 Re: densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Photo-collector 
Date:   01-11-2007 16:43

Technet Advanced Data Format
Eastman Kodak specifies an ASCII data format for all RS232-C communications between its software applications and any photographic
densitometer. Over the years this protocol has become a defacto standard. It is supported by most makers of photographic hardware and
software. All X-Rite photo units support this definition. The Advanced format identifies both the channel and the filter set being used for all
measurements. An older Technet protocol is also specified (see Related Support).
Below are listed notes regarding the more recent Advanced Technet protocol:
ASCII text data is transmitted in one or more fields of the following structure:
L###<cr>
If multiple fields are transmitted, they are passed in the following order: V, R, G, B
L###<spc>L###<spc>L###<spc>L###<spc><cr><lf>
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Where:
L A lead identifying character (v, r, g, b [Status A Transmission])
(p, c, m, y [Status M Transmission])
(P, C, M, Y [Status A Reflection])
### The measured density - NO decimal point - assumed between 1st & 2nd
<cr> The ASCII carriage return character (Chr$ (13))
Where:
L A lead identifying character (v, r, g, b [Status A Transmission])
(p, c, m, y [Status M Transmission])
(P, C, M, Y [Status A Reflection])
### The measured density - NO decimal point - assumed between 1st & 2nd
<spc> The ASCII space character
<cr> The ASCII carriage return character (Chr$ (13))
<lf> The ASCII line feed character (Chr$ (10))


 
 Re: densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Philippe Cas 
Date:   01-11-2007 18:05

Bonsoir,

Merci photo collector.
Vous avez trouvez ça où ?

Je vais déja esayer de trouver un cable.

Cordialement
Philippe Cas

philippe(at)usine-a-photo.com


 
 Re: densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Photo-collector 
Date:   01-11-2007 18:41

J'avais téléchargé ces informations l'année dernière sur le site X-RITE à l'époque où j'avais acquis un X-RITE 811


 
 Re: densitometre TR 1224 piloté par ordi
Auteur: Photo-collector 
Date:   01-11-2007 18:43

X-RITE proposait un software réalisé par une société tierce

WinDense Photo and the 810/811
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Application : Windense Photo
Vendor : Windense International
Platform : All versions of Windows up to and including WinXP
Version : M3
Cabling : 361-83 (cable) & 881-71 (25pin adaptor) or 881-91 (9pin adaptor)
Notes : Per latest info from the folks at WinDense: there are two versions that operate with the X-Rite 810/811. The most
current Motion Picture package is v.M3 and the current Photo offering is v.M3. Each of these packages operates
on all current versions of Microsoft Windows. While not explicitly stated, interface consists of a null-modem cable.
The X-Rite parts listed above fulfill this requirement. Customers wishing to secure cables locally should be certain
that the specify "null-modem" and that they select an appropriate pin count and sex.
WinDense Setup:
Baud = 9,600
Word Structure = N, 8, 1
Com Port = where physically connected
Densitometer Setup: Function Value Function Value
p1 Baud = 9,600 Pin5 = CTS
p2 AID = AIDm rci = lowercase
p3 COMP = Uppercase dpt = lowercase
COLOR mode = RGB
The support number for Windense International is...
(USA) 704-708-5117
(UK) 011-44-141-423-5666
The WebSite for Windense International is... www.WindenseInt.com

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